View Full Version : 9mm Suppressed SBR project
spikes40
08-14-2009, 06:58 PM
I have decided to start a new 9mm AR SBR project so i figured i would document along the way. I am in reality only doing half a build as I am starting with a factory Colt 6450 9mm. So my lower is already a complete factory 9mm lower... I have since removed the factory 16" upper and that will be the new build portion.
1) I have filled out my Form 1 paperwork (available at http://www.titleii.com) to create a new short barreled rifle in duplicate and filled out the citizenship compliance form, and photocopied my trust documents...all that and 200.00 have been sent to the BATF and the 3-4 month wait begins.
2) While waiting for my form 1 to be approved, I am at a standstill with the upper. This makes for the perfect time to work on my lower to get it where i want. Tonight I was able to get a Magpul Moe Mil-Spec stock and Moe grip.. I have replaced the factory Colt 4 position stock with the new magpul Moe as well as swaped the A2 grip for a Magpul Moe grip with storage compartment.
I love the Magpul stock and grip...very nice
JaxChris
08-15-2009, 09:32 AM
http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68_69&products_id=288
7.5" barrel and 7" DD rail? That would look very nice. I plan on going 10.5"/10" for my future SBR. Maybe 9.5"/9" if the ballistic data says it'll still hold decent 100yd accuracy, but so far it seems 10.5" is the minimum barrel length for my wants/needs.
spikes40
08-15-2009, 11:16 AM
Was at the show today and saw scott from spikes... he did not have any stripped 9mm uppers with him but I did geta magpul rear flip for my rock river .223 as a test if I like it..which i already do... i will get another set of front and rear from scott for the 9mm build.
I did pickup the spikes 9mm buffer and spacer on scotts recommendation and I will be going with a TROS 5" 3 lug barrel.. I already havethe email out for the barrel as i hear there is 3 month lead time
JaxChris
08-15-2009, 12:54 PM
Good choice on the Spike's buffer. I have a couple of T2 tungsten buffers already for my first 2 builds.
If you want, I'll help make sure he brings atleast one 9mm upper with him next time he's at a show down there. But if you already have your heart on the TROS barrel, then I can just ask them to bring the 9mm upper receiver. Btw, have a new internally-buffered 9mm BCG coming out in a couple months. It still needs a buffer, so combined with the Spike's 9mm buffer you will have a reliably soft-shooting 9mm.
Good choice on grabbing the MagPul MBUS. You can't beat that price. Instant resale if you didn't like it.
I need Scott to remember to bring a few different uppers to the Lakeland show. With 6 lowers I'm trying to decide what each of them should be purposed for. I think I've narrowed it down to:
1 - Recon Carbine
2 - SPR or Tack Driver
3 - SBR
4 - 9mm
5 - 22LR
6 - Lefty Carbine or SBR
spikes40
08-15-2009, 01:48 PM
Today is my lucky day!!
Mark Mcwillis from TROS emailed me and has a few 5" 3lugs left at 187.00...Normally there is a 3-4 month backorder... order has been placed and payment is going out monday
JaxChris
08-15-2009, 05:38 PM
Where you going to hide that barrel until your paperwork comes back? lol jk
spikes40
08-15-2009, 05:49 PM
my parents live a few miles away...probably just store it there until the papers come back...i just had to secure it while it was available
** was just emailed that the last available one was on mark mcwillis' desk with my name on it!!! WOO HOO happy bday to me!
Thats awesome. I cant wait to see the final product, it will be a hell of a toy.
I have the 5" Tros. Extremely happy with it. I just installed a 9" Tros on a friend's AR upper replacing the Gemtech 5" barrel that was part of the Gemtech Talon package. He couldn't get satisfactory accuracy with the Gemtech. Turns out when I went to take the old barrel out, the barrel nut was only hand tight. Most likely the cause of the accuracy problem. Shame on Gemtech.
spikes40
08-15-2009, 08:22 PM
now thats funny.... ill tell you..mark at tros is a class act.. i got the last one he had...vito was telling me today expect a 3-4 month wait
spikes40
08-15-2009, 08:23 PM
I need suggestions and handguards now.. which rail system do you suggest?
I need suggestions and handguards now.. which rail system do you suggest?
One that will fit your suppressor. Find out the OD of each possible suppressor you might go with and make sure your rail choice's ID will fit it. I'm partial to Troy, but Daniel Defense has some nice one ones as well.
JaxChris
08-15-2009, 09:37 PM
DD Lite rail has a 1.22 ID, DD M4 rail has a 1.62 ID. The YHM, GG&G, Troy MRF, and POF all have (I believe) a greater than 1.5 ID which is the OD of most 5.56 suppressors out there.
I'm thinking of getting a YHM rail with the end cap and sizing the end cap out to just fit the suppressor and only have 0-1 inches of suppressor showing. Thinking 6" suppressor with 5" barrel with a 10" rail. But that will change many times between now and SBR/suppressor time. First build is carbine, second build is SPR.
spikes40
08-18-2009, 05:45 PM
Just spoke with andy blanchik rom KGB armament in pompano...he said he can do my engraving while i wait and can get me my swr trident suppressor for 200.00 less then vito at OTB...life is good... with do both asap
JaxChris
08-18-2009, 06:58 PM
Are you just having "Registered SBR" engraved or are you going to wait and have your stamp # put on as well?
So how much is the suppressor running you, 600$?
spikes40
08-18-2009, 07:16 PM
the engraving is required to have the name of my trust, city and state.. to a batf depth standard...the stamp number is just the serial number
the can from andy@KGB is running 600.00 or so out the door..from vito @ only the best was going to be close to 800.00 out the door
JaxChris
08-18-2009, 08:43 PM
I think the MSRP on those things is only 650$, why the hell is Vito charging over MSRP on something that takes forever to receive?
Oddly enough, I've read that most people file the paperwork with the brand name, city, and state that is already on the lower.
Example:
Spike's Tactical
Apopka, FL
Then they will get "Registered SBR" laser engraved on opposite side of the magwell where you usually find "For Law Enforcement or Government Use Only". That is what I was planning to do after reading the NFA Gun Trust Blog top to bottom. Apparently you are not the true manufacturer just because you threw an upper on a lower. The manufacturer is the company/trust that actually machined the lower that is being registered.
People who put their Trust on a lower as the manufacturer are people that machine their own lower from a 60-80% forging, is my understanding.
This could spark a big debate, but from what I've already read up on this you are not the manufacturer of the controlled part (the plain lower being registered). You can register it under your Trust for protection, but the manufacturer is not your Trust.
Have any links explaining why you must list a Trust as the manufacturer to an already recorded and manufactured lower?
I need C3PO!!! Where is that damn ATF/NFA Protocol Droid?!?!?!
spikes40
08-18-2009, 08:57 PM
jax, when paperwork is filed, the manf. name, city, and state are stated on the paperwork...once approved, it has now been remanufactured as a short barrel and you are now the manf. hence having to mark your info on it... never have a seen just register SBR..the name of the registeree must be engraved...it sux but no way around it
the only time you dont have to is when it is a factory SBR..then no engraving is needed
JaxChris
08-19-2009, 04:13 AM
Ok, this is why it is so confusing... nobody ever hears or is told the same thing, even when they ask an ATF NFA Examiner. =(
Well if they are referring you to section 479.102, it applies to "licensed" importers, manufacturers, and makers/dealers of NFA weapons - which are done on a Form 2. Since you aren't a licensed maker/manufacturer, you can't label a firearm as such. An approved Form 1 only gives you permission to use that firearm (the lower receiver) in the way outline on the paperwork. If I decide to sell that firearm to someone and have it marked as being manufactured by an unlicensed maker (the Trust), that is considered selling an illegal weapon.
The lower receiver is considered the firearm and the rest are just parts. I have to get an approved Form 1 in order to use it a certain way (use as a SBR), but since I can't sell it as such I can't mark it as such.
Marking the lower receiver by an individual, trust, or corporation appears to be misinformation when referred under 479.102 which applies to Form 2 manufacturing.
There is verbiage under Chapter 53 that states an individual must mark & register a receiver if they machine their own from a blank forging and don't buy an already recorded lower from a manufacturer. Those you must mark with the City & State that it was created in, provide the name it was created under, what caliber it is designed to utilize, and also give it a unique serial number you have not used on anything else you've created.
Blah, I don't know. I seriously think I'm just going to wait for the FFFA to pass and then I'll assemble an SBR and maybe machine my own silencer. Just mark them "Made in Florida" and screw the tax stamp/NFA bullshit. Make an appointment with an ATF Branch, bring the lower, and ask the NFA examiner. People that have done that are told you use the already engraved data from the lower only. People that make their own lower from scratch must engrave their information and register it.
spikes40
08-20-2009, 02:41 PM
What a day! my 5" Tros barrel just arrived...simply awesome and the quality is amazing..
spikes40
08-23-2009, 10:57 AM
The build is coming along.. I picked up my Eotech 516 yesterday and I have just paid for my SWR Trident 9 Suppressor...Will be ordered from SWR Monday and will transfer to my Class III in 4 weeks or so...at that time my paperwork will go out for the transfer from my class III to me... I hate waiting!
JaxChris
08-23-2009, 04:47 PM
4 weeks to deliver an in-stock item before you even get your serial number to submit your transfer paperwork?
Shit, almost work pay 20-30$ more to save 4 weeks.
spikes40
08-23-2009, 06:28 PM
vito was the only one with it in stock for 200.00 more...no thanks
JaxChris
08-23-2009, 10:04 PM
Yea, that's what we call gouging. Convenience is only worth 5-10%.
spikes40
08-23-2009, 10:13 PM
exactly... i figure i will be waiting on the SBR paperwork anyways so whats an extra couple weeks
JaxChris
08-24-2009, 06:00 AM
Grab a whole box of Snicker's then. =(
spikes40
08-24-2009, 07:45 PM
and to top it off... i got a nasty gram today from vito telling me to delete his contact info and our relationship is officially over...because i baught from someone else
JaxChris
08-24-2009, 09:02 PM
Why? Because he saw that you posted how he gouges for 200$ over MSRP on a silencer? Tough shit for him - nothing should be over MSRP now, competition is tough and the panic is over. Everywhere you look places are now getting in all their backorders and causing them to get overstocked. Look at all the sales going on now. Don't worry man, if he's that unprofessional and can't handle a customer buying from a better competitor then you aren't the only person he's driving away.
Only thing I have trouble finding is a healthy supply of pre-made barrels from the big names. Which is why I'm either going to continue waiting it out after I get my rails or just continue with my current plan of having Ballistic Advantage make me custom barrels to my specs/applications.
spikes40
08-24-2009, 09:20 PM
agreed.. i will miss nothing by not dealing with him...KGB Armament in Pompano will handle all my class III business now. Andy is a stand up guy!
anthony20031
08-25-2009, 08:30 AM
Wow I guess I know where not to go when I decide to add a silencer to my list of goodies
spikes40
08-25-2009, 08:32 AM
Wow I guess I know where not to go when I decide to add a silencer to my list of goodies
:+1: Andy B from KGB arms just joined the forum and Is a great resource...He will be more then happy to help you out and his prices are fantastic!
There may be a new dealer coming this year for class 3 items also. Still in the works.
anthony20031
08-25-2009, 09:02 AM
Guntech?
No word yet, when it happens it will be posted.
JaxChris
08-25-2009, 10:05 AM
Cris's Muffin Shop?
Mmmmm, tactical Class 3 DD muffins! Those sound delicious! Explodes on the way out and leaves you feeling cleansed, refreshed, and 5 lbs lighter. =)
Mmmmm, tactical Class 3 DD muffins! Those sound delicious! Explodes on the way out and leaves you feeling cleansed, refreshed, and 5 lbs lighter. =)
Just don't get the creme filled ones.......:bolt:
JaxChris
08-25-2009, 07:23 PM
True, heard odd rumors about those.
spikes40
08-26-2009, 06:35 AM
Form 1 Timeline
Check sent to ATF 8/13
Check cashed 8/23
Form 1 Timeline
Check sent to ATF 8/13
Check cashed 8/23
Government taking your money is never a problem. :raspberry:
spikes40
08-26-2009, 06:49 AM
as long as i get a stamp they are welcome to it
JaxChris
08-26-2009, 06:58 AM
Make sure you check the back and don't mark it with anything about your Trust being out of order. They'll still send the stamp even if the Trust doesn't meet their standards. It's like they are setting you up for failure, especially since they put that notice on the back and don't attach it to the front as a proper warning.
spikes40
08-27-2009, 10:07 PM
jax what do you mean trust being out of order?
JaxChris
08-27-2009, 11:23 PM
Look around on some of the NFA forums and you'll see that some people still receive a stamp but on the back of the approval is a notice that their trust did not appear to meet criteria. It's like they said you the stamp just because you paid, they don't actually seem to deny you for an illegitimate trust. Only denials people see now are if their status has changed which makes them ineligible.
spikes40
08-28-2009, 06:36 AM
well my trust is 11 pages and rock solid...no issues here
JaxChris
08-28-2009, 07:26 AM
Here's the quickest link I could find on the subject, there are more posts on this blogs with follow-ups.
http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2009/04/atf-and-invalid-quicken-trust.html
And btw, you didn't submit your form with "less than 16 inches" as the length did you? Sadly that doesn't fly anymore like it used to - which is what I was planning to do so I wouldn't be bothered if I decided to switch up to different barrel lengths. I guess the ATF now wants you to have multiple SBR's (one per barrel) instead of just one.
http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2009/08/atf-form-1-53201for-sbrsbs-wit.html
spikes40
08-28-2009, 07:41 AM
no i put 5" barrel...but that does not mean you can not put other length barrels on
spikes40
09-05-2009, 12:36 PM
My Magpul backup front and rear sights arrived today ( thanks jaxchris)..All i need now is the stripped upper and the troy 7" rail and I will have all parts needed to complete my project
JaxChris
09-06-2009, 03:35 PM
Glad it arrived on time, and you're very welcome. Always glad to help out fellow friends of Cris. =)
Now about my extra 65 cents... just kidding. lol =)
spikes40
10-04-2009, 09:05 PM
Just got an email for NFLGUN.COM that my engraving for my lower is done and it is being shipped back to me tomorrow am..should have it tues or weds.... thanks again phil
Great service and awesome communication!
JaxChris
10-05-2009, 03:00 AM
I'm still curious when Ray Lewis, Plaxico Burress and other members of the NFL Players union are going to sue for that domain name. =)
The engraving job he did to my GSG was amazing. I couldn't have expected any better.
JaxChris
10-05-2009, 06:16 AM
The engraving job he did to my GSG was amazing. I couldn't have expected any better.
Good pics?
The engraving job he did to my GSG was amazing. I couldn't have expected any better. BTW, it's NFLGUN.com (no "s" at the end).
I have to agree the engraving job was very clean.
spikes40
10-05-2009, 06:44 AM
phil, i have corrected my post and dropped the 'S'... he sent me the tracking this morning...so i should have my lower tomorrow or weds... great guy with great communication...now i just need my damn for back... just broke the 2 month mark
Good pics?
http://tacticaladv.com/showthread.php?p=15167#post15167 (http://tacticaladv.com/showthread.php?p=15167#post15167)
spikes40
10-07-2009, 11:36 AM
got my Lower back for NFLGUN.com and the engraving is perfect... will post pics tonight
spikes40
10-07-2009, 01:05 PM
i cant believe it...called nfa for an update on status of my form 1 ...sent 8/13
they said it was approved on oct 5 and i should have it back shortly...under 2 months!!!!
AWESOME!!
Wow, that is impressive. Maybe I should have set up for my silencer for the 10/22.
i cant believe it...called nfa for an update on status of my form 1 ...sent 8/13
they said it was approved on oct 5 and i should have it back shortly...under 2 months!!!!
AWESOME!!
the waitng has come to an end.... :headbang:
spikes40
10-07-2009, 01:15 PM
HOLY NFA.... my supressor transfered today as well....from MFG to dealer...now i need to send in my papers from dealer to me
JaxChris
10-07-2009, 01:23 PM
Mmmm, I should send off to SBR one of my lowers now along with ordering a suppressor. Then I'll get the stamps around Xmas and I'll tell the woman she doesn't have to get me shit this year. =)
spikes40
10-07-2009, 01:29 PM
Mmmm, I should send off to SBR one of my lowers now along with ordering a suppressor. Then I'll get the stamps around Xmas and I'll tell the woman she doesn't have to get me shit this year. =)
:+1:
That was my game plan even tho we stopped buying X-mas presents to each other for a few years now.
JaxChris
10-07-2009, 03:14 PM
That was my game plan even tho we stopped buying X-mas presents to each other for a few years now.
I don't care for that shit either, but the woman has kids and so she feels obligated to do it for everyone.
Ok, I need help setting up a Firearm Trust. Who wants to send me a PM with some help? Please? =)
spikes40
10-07-2009, 03:29 PM
Ok, I need help setting up a Firearm Trust. Who wants to send me a PM with some help? Please? =)
PM sent
anthony20031
10-07-2009, 05:34 PM
Me too Spikes...can I get a PM
spikes40
10-09-2009, 05:33 PM
form 1 arrived approved today..so off to the range tomorrow with the 635 upper....going to get the stripped 9mm rock river upper this week and will need to pay class III phil a visit to get the tros 5" barrel installed
Taking the girl out tonight so will have pics of everything up tomorrow
JaxChris
10-09-2009, 08:21 PM
So based on the start of the thread, it was a 7-week turn around huh?
spikes40
10-10-2009, 01:12 AM
correct...
sent 8/13
check cashed 8/23
approved 10/5
in m mailboc 10/9
spikes40
10-10-2009, 03:30 PM
Well the first part of the wait is over..... Here she is sporting the Factory Colt 635 Submachine gun upper w/ 10.5 in. barrel, Spikes tactical tungsten buffer with spacer and Hakko illuminated red dot scope
Had to have something to play with while i finish my dedicated supressed upper... SWR contacted me to let me know that my SWR Trident has transfered from MFG to dealer... Once Andy is back from knob creek i would assume i should be able to get the papers to start the transfer from dealer to myself.
Will pick up the stripped rock river 9mm upper from spikes next week...then all i need i a set of Troy MRF 7" rails
spikes40
10-14-2009, 01:21 PM
My Trident has made it to Adny @ KGB...hope to get my transfer paperwork out tomorrow or so!
spikes40
10-20-2009, 10:03 AM
Saw Andy from KGB this morning and got my form 4's..they have been sent out to the ATF as of this morning 10/20..i hope to see the same 2 month turnaround time!
spikes40
10-22-2009, 08:54 PM
Rock River flattop 9mm stripped upper and forged charging handle order this evening from spikes tactical... FYI if you enter coupon code ARFCOM you get 5% off
All I am missing is a 7" free float rail and I will be all set
JaxChris
10-22-2009, 10:38 PM
Hopefully they don't cancel your order. People that use the discount code on orders containing sale items have been getting canceled lately because the website has stopped blocking coupons on sale times and is double dipping the discounts.
I'll be at Spike's tomorrow I think. They are making my trust for me. (They loves me!)
spikes40
10-24-2009, 09:57 AM
jax... my order has already shipped and should be here monday so i should be good to go!
JaxChris
10-24-2009, 10:09 AM
Excellent, so what's left now? =)
spikes40
10-24-2009, 10:19 AM
the only thing left now is a 7" free float rail... either troy (most likley), Daniel Defense, or YHM
other then that the build will be done!!!!
JaxChris
10-24-2009, 07:46 PM
You have a 5.5" barrel right? So you're limited to 1.5" I.D. or great on your choice of 7" rails?
spikes40
10-26-2009, 09:44 AM
the upper and charging handle arrived this morning with a free spikes tactical carbiner.. will take some pics tonight...Jax, Yes i have the Tros 5" barrel and will go with the troy 7" rails
spikes40
10-26-2009, 10:28 AM
Rock River Stripped Flat Top 9mm upper w/ Spikes forged charging handle
This will be barrelled whenever SS1 has time with a Tros 5" 3-lug barrel
JaxChris
10-26-2009, 10:46 AM
Cool, I didn't know the Troy had a large enough I.D. to support a suppressor. That's going to look really nice. I love the integrally suppressed look that you get with a suppressor under the rail. =)
Cool, I didn't know the Troy had a large enough I.D. to support a suppressor. That's going to look really nice. I love the integrally suppressed look that you get with a suppressor under the rail. =)
Most 9mm suppressors are pretty thin. Not a chance with a 5.56 can.
http://tacticaladv.com/picture.php?albumid=6&pictureid=206
JaxChris
10-26-2009, 03:52 PM
Yea, I've only seen one suppressor in 5.56 that is 1" O.D. Everything else is 1.4" and up, which makes things difficult.
spikes40
10-27-2009, 06:34 AM
Timeline:
ATF Check sent 10/20
Cashed and posted 10/26
spikes40
10-30-2009, 08:50 AM
Troy MRF 7" has been ordered..this was the last piece needed for the build
spikes40
11-04-2009, 05:38 PM
Troy has arrived and the build is done pending the wait on my paperwork on the Trident suppressor
:feedback:
anthony20031
11-04-2009, 05:43 PM
purty
NICE!!! how much :lino: all in ?
spikes40
11-04-2009, 08:46 PM
NICE!!! how much :lino: all in ?
Ugh i hate that question cause i have to reflect on the money spent...but by far my favorite gun
ok break down is
Original colt 6540 9mm w/ 16" barrel - 1300.00 (got a couple years ago)
traded 16" upper for 10.5 in colt 635 SMG upper - 0.00
Magpul MOE stock - 60.00
Magpul MOE Grip - 15.00
Rock River Stripped 9mm Upper - 150.00
Forged Spikes Tactical Charging Handle - 20.00
Tros 5" 3-lug Barrel - 190.00
Barrel Nut - 15.00
Troy MRF 7" Rails - 190.00
spikes tactical 9mm buffer w/ spacer 40.00
Magpul front and rear Backup Sights - 60.00 i think
Eotech 516 - 300.00
SWR Trident Suppressor - 700.00
2 tax stamps - 400.00
NFA Engraving - 35.00
looks like a grand total of 3475.00 (plus i have the second 635 upper as well so i have 2 configs) :suicide1:
JaxChris
11-06-2009, 08:22 AM
The front MagPul MBUS is on backwards... =)~
Make sure you hold onto them though, they could become collectible if ARMS rampage of stupid lawsuits continue to win. ARMS is saying the flip style adjustable rear sight peep is their property even though 3 manufacturer's had products with this feature on the market before ARMS ever even showed off a development product.
ARMS is also suing LaRue because they have a patent on the number 17 (along with almost 40 other numbers) when used in firearms. They are suing LaRue because they named a product the LT-170.
And ARMS is suing Troy for their rails - again.
ARMS is an old company with no more creativity (he ran his people off and they started other companies). Now ARMS stays in business by contracting out their construction to foreign nations and suing today's market leaders by any means they can with their patent portfolio. Fuck ARMS.
spikes40
11-06-2009, 08:28 AM
The front MagPul MBUS is on backwards... =)~
already corrected.. i realized that 5 minutes after i posted the pic
Just make sure not to fire the weapon backwards, that would really suck for you.
spikes40
11-06-2009, 08:38 AM
yeah that would really suck... at least with the suppressor on it...i wouldnt hear it coming
JaxChris
11-06-2009, 08:53 AM
Just make sure not to fire the weapon backwards, that would really suck for you.
First 9mm with recoil that really tears up your shoulder? lol
spikes40
12-09-2009, 07:52 AM
spoke with NFA branch today and looks like my trident went pending 11/9...hopefully should be approved soon
Andy B
12-24-2009, 11:51 AM
Guess what came in the mail today 12/24/09.............APPROVAL RECEIVED!
Guess what came in the mail today 12/24/09.............APPROVAL RECEIVED!
you must be on Santa's NICE list..
JaxChris
12-24-2009, 12:19 PM
Guess what came in the mail today 12/24/09.............APPROVAL RECEIVED!
You just made Adam's Xmas.
You just made Adam's Xmas.
Pretty sure he is Jewish. Ring in the new year!
JaxChris
12-24-2009, 12:35 PM
Pretty sure he is Jewish. Ring in the new year!
All the merrier! lol
spikes40
12-24-2009, 01:30 PM
got the suppressor but the troy rails dont fit over it...so now i have a set of troy rails for sale...suppressor is bad ass though
got the suppressor but the troy rails dont fit over it...so now i have a set of troy rails for sale...suppressor is bad ass though
what size Troy? an I assume they are free float...
spikes40
12-24-2009, 01:57 PM
yes free float 7"
Nice rail for the money too.
JaxChris
12-25-2009, 01:12 PM
Cool, I didn't know the Troy had a large enough I.D. to support a suppressor. That's going to look really nice. I love the integrally suppressed look that you get with a suppressor under the rail. =)
*hint hint* =)
spikes40
12-25-2009, 01:42 PM
The Troy can support a suppressor just not a trident... An evo or a vortex has no problems
spikes40
12-30-2009, 06:20 PM
Just got my YHM Diamond FF handrails ordered..hopefully this will complete my build
JaxChris
12-30-2009, 06:42 PM
The YHM Diamond is a great rail... but it is noticeably heavier than other rails of the same size. Got the 12" model on the woman's SPR and you can feel the weight up there, but that's a good thing on an SPR anyhow.
spikes40
12-30-2009, 06:44 PM
with the limited choices i had...not to concerned about the extra weight...will have a tango down stubby vertical grip anyhow
GT03235
01-01-2010, 11:54 AM
This is my 9mm High point 995 carbine with suppressor and some other goodies. It has always performed faultlessly (more than i can say about there pistols lol) Down side is cleaning its a bit of a pain so its not cleaned as much as my other firearms lol.
YouTube - hi point 995 carbine silenced ati stock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUq21rWmYqk)
spikes40
01-07-2010, 10:37 AM
YHM Diamond Rail arrived today...just need to get it installed and the build will be done...pics to come shortly
Secpro
01-07-2010, 12:39 PM
This is my 9mm High point 995 carbine with suppressor and some other goodies. It has always performed faultlessly (more than i can say about there pistols lol) Down side is cleaning its a bit of a pain so its not cleaned as much as my other firearms lol.
Hey did you say clips? :ohnoes:
spikes40
01-12-2010, 02:51 PM
THE BUILD IS COMPLETE !!!
Phil..Thank you again for the awesome work on the rail and barrel!! As Always
That thing came out AMAZING
spikes40
01-12-2010, 03:22 PM
saturday is range day
THE BUILD IS COMPLETE !!!
Phil..Thank you again for the awesome work on the rail and barrel!! As Always
You're welcome! You should be extremely happy with it. I'd like to hear it compared to the evo 9 I have. Maybe we can get Aquajon to get his w/ the Gemtech out there and try to find a sound meter we can borrow.
spikes40
01-13-2010, 11:52 AM
You're welcome! You should be extremely happy with it. I'd like to hear it compared to the evo 9 I have. Maybe we can get Aquajon to get his w/ the Gemtech out there and try to find a sound meter we can borrow.
That would be awesome!
spikes40
01-16-2010, 02:31 PM
Well took the new AR out to the range for its maiden voyage...only ran 100rnd but it ran flawless..once i had the eotech dialed in...it was dead on as well...i could not be happier with this build!
Andy B
01-17-2010, 09:15 AM
So when will we see you at the SMG match?
spikes40
01-17-2010, 09:47 AM
So when will we see you at the SMG match?
When is the next one... i would be down to go!
JaxChris
01-17-2010, 10:43 AM
Aren't SMG's full auto/select fire weapons? Or is it open to all SBR's?
Andy B
01-17-2010, 11:19 AM
The SMG matches at Malabar are open to all reg smgs and pistol caliber carbines. There is a separate semi class. You will not fine anything like it here in Florida. Sure beats standing on a line and shooting at trash.
http://smgbuddy.miniuzi.com/
http://www.bullethose.com/
There are carpools from Miami for every match. If you want to be put on the mailing list contact me. tacticalacademy@bellsouth.net
JaxChris
01-17-2010, 12:00 PM
Malabar huh? Good old Space Coast has all the fun. I miss working over there. I remember when Palm Bay next door was still nothing but farm land.