View Full Version : Berreta Px4 Storm
Satan_3pc
10-18-2009, 01:53 PM
Anyone know anything about this gun or have much experience with it? A guy I know was telling me "how great" it is. Just wondering. I'm still getting a glock 27 regardless. :)
http://www.beretta.com/Pistols-Carbines/Defence/Sub-Compact/Px4-Storm-Subcompact-Type-F/index.aspx?m=82&f=2&id=855
Chris
10-18-2009, 02:26 PM
Its a good little gun from my understanding.
I have handled quite a few PX4's. They are a little on the chunky side for my tastes but the build quality seems good. I dont not own one though
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p225/chrisbean109/px4.jpg
I have a PX-4 Storm in .40. It consistantly shot low left and no I wasn't pushing it. I laser bore sighted it and then all it did was shoot low. Turns out, I was told that the sights were designed to be put on top of the target to the point where you obscure the target. I said bullshit and it became a gun that was on the chopping block. In fact, I had bought a CX-4 Storm as a pair and traded away that one in part that I wasn't thrilled with it and wasn't thrilled with the pistol. On a whim, I changed out the sights with trijicons and I couldn't freaking miss with the gun. I was in the paint at the backstop at Arizona and I was loving it. What a swing in opinion for me. The gun feels great in the hand albeit the slide is a little thick, but with the new sights, it's a gun that I would recommend to anyone.
Satan_3pc
10-18-2009, 07:11 PM
Well, this guy was telling me how it's "waaaay better than a glock or an XD", and I was trying to express my opinion that they're all probably good guns, it just depends on the shooter's preference, but he was like no it's better because blah blah blah and it has double and single action. So I'm thinking, what extra mechanism do they add to complicated the efficiency of simplicity to give the gun ability to switch to and from single and double action? And how the hell does that work?
spikes40
10-18-2009, 07:13 PM
so you were talking to a guy that has no clue??
Satan_3pc
10-18-2009, 07:19 PM
I guess so. I thought maybe it was a possibility, because I thought I had read a Sig Sauer had that capability, but I still have no clue how that would work, why you'd want it, and if I am even right in thinking it exist.
spikes40
10-18-2009, 07:27 PM
well my 228 i guess is single and double action meaning i can manually cock the hammer back and carry cocked and locked or i can drop the hammer and upon pulling the trigger..the hammer will go back and snap forward
Chris
10-18-2009, 07:27 PM
Sure there are a ton of DA/SA guns out there.
Thats just a feature or a function of trigger or action
By no means does that make it better than any other or the best.
If it makes him happy thats great.
This gentlemen may benefit from coming onto the board to learn about some other firearms and their perspective benifits/Weaknesses
Satan_3pc
10-18-2009, 08:17 PM
Ok, ok, I get the hint. I sent him an invite. lol.
Most single/doubles come with hammer drops when engaging the manual safety. In fact, I think the only one I have that I can carry "condition one" cocked and locked is the Taurus PT92F. The ones I don't like are the ones that will drop the hammer and maintain a manual safety.
Satan_3pc
10-18-2009, 10:30 PM
Oh, okay. I think I get it now. So it's on guns that are hammer fired then? Like a glock has a firing pin and has the internal safety that blocks it so you can keep it cocked and loaded, but if it had a hammer you'd maybe want that single/double capability?
On a Glock, XD, or M&P you have a spring tensioned striker instead of a traditional hammer and firing pin. Their design is basically at partial tension when chambered. When you pull the trigger, the trigger bar brings the striker to full tension before it is released. Thats why you generally don't have a second pull of a trigger when it doesn't go bang on the first pull as the trigger does not reset when the trigger is released. I say generally because Taurus has a model that allows a second pull in their striker fire design. But with hammer/firing pin designs, a cocked hammer requires a trigger pull that has a minimul pull to release the sear holding the hammer back where a manual safety or a hammer release is your only safe guard other than good trigger discipline. On double action designs, most are designed so that you can safely drop the hammer and the trigger pull requires the hammer to be pulled back until full tension is acheived before release. It also allows you to reset the trigger and pull the hammer again if you have a FTF such as a light primer strike. Then you also have double action only semi's that has a sear design that does not hold the hammer at tension which most most manufacturers offer versions of their single/double actions models.
I shot one of these Beretta's I thought they felt cheesy and had the same sight problems. Never been a big fan of Beretta though.
Never been a big fan of Beretta though.
we know you prefer Taurus :raspberry: