Duracoating

[Secpro]

Alright folks after a long anticipated wait I'm getting my AR back Tuesday. I've been looking into Duracoating her, but don't know a thing about it or who to go to. Any recommendations would be appreciated as well as opinions etc.
Some of you may have seen her, if not theres a pic in my album I think!

[spikes40]

i know somone who does an awesome job but is not an ffl so he can do everything but the lower

[Secpro]

Also any thoughts on cerakote?

[Secpro]

i know somone who does an awesome job but is not an ffl so he can do everything but the lower

Adam I was just reading an article about how you're required to have an FFl, but they didn't really say why?
In my case I would need the upper and lower done since I have those markings on my AR.

[spikes40]

well i know my guy can do the upper

[anthony20031]

how much do these people charge to get it done?

[spikes40]

depends...my guy is cheap..usually 35-50 bucks for a complete pistol upper half

[anthony20031]

Pistol? what about an AR though

[lino]

ill spraypaint your AR for $50.00 :raspberry:

[ss1]

If you have patience, Professor Stoneface at Guntech can do duracoat. He's got a backlog and has limited time, so it may take a while before he can get to it. Maybe he can see this and give you a quote.

[anthony20031]

Professor Stoneface?????

[anthony20031]

Ah ok his username lol

[IraG2362]

if you order the kit from Lauer , i am sure i can figure it out.. i have done some reading on the process and it isnt brain surgery ..

[RCSRT8]

If you have patience, Professor Stoneface at Guntech can do duracoat. He's got a backlog and has limited time, so it may take a while before he can get to it. Maybe he can see this and give you a quote.


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[Secpro]

If you have patience, Professor Stoneface at Guntech can do duracoat. He's got a backlog and has limited time, so it may take a while before he can get to it. Maybe he can see this and give you a quote.

Well I'm not impatient but I would like to have it done more sooner than later!
I'll wait and see if he comes around any time or next time I'm in Guntech I'll ask him for a quote and also what is wait time is like.

[JaxChris]

Only from my own research and opinion, I would say Cerakote over Duracoat. The ceramic formula of Cerakote products appears to hold up better. Duracoat is easier to work with but doesn't last as long. So if you're looking for some fancy scheme (other than just black touch up) I would say Cerakote is the choice if you want it done once.

Check AR15.com in the Hometown section for places in Florida that offer both.

Btw, Spike's meant "pistol length upper" for an AR-15 would cost 50$. But if you're not getting the barrel coated the price would be the same for a rifle length upper.

[Secpro]

i know somone who does an awesome job but is not an ffl so he can do everything but the lower

Does he sidearms too?

[Chris]

i have tried and applied
duracoat
cerakote
and gun kote

I personally prefer duracoat

[Chris]

if you can wait a few days im going to make a series of vids about restoration of a shotgun using duracoat.

[Secpro]

if you can wait a few days im going to make a series of vids about restoration of a shotgun using duracoat.

Well i look forward to that vid! I can wait a bit because I don't want to BS this process. Plus i still have to go and pick up my girl tomorrow morning anyway.

[ProfessorStoneFace]

I personally have only used Duracoat and it's great stuff. I could paint it if you bring it by GunTech. are you looking to paint it all one color? AR15's are actually the most labor intensive of all the firearms I've painted so far. so many little pieces that just take a lot of time to do right. if it's just one color it's $125 for an AR15. if it needs durafill or if you want two tone or camo it's more.

as far as people not painting the lower I don't see why that would be an issue. the only thing I can think of would be that you can't mail a firearm to someone who isn't an FFL dealer.

[Secpro]

I personally have only used Duracoat and it's great stuff. I could paint it if you bring it by GunTech. are you looking to paint it all one color? AR15's are actually the most labor intensive of all the firearms I've painted so far. so many little pieces that just take a lot of time to do right. if it's just one color it's $125 for an AR15. if it needs durafill or if you want two tone or camo it's more.

as far as people not painting the lower I don't see why that would be an issue. the only thing I can think of would be that you can't mail a firearm to someone who isn't an FFL dealer.

I'm thinking more or less of OD or Dark Earth finish along with a standard combat black, but my dilemma is the crud I already have on my AR. I bought it with this crap on there years ago.

[Chris]

ez fix

[Secpro]

ez fix

Sweet music to my ears! If I can get that crud off them I'll just do the OD or Dark Earth and keep a portion blk and just mix the furniture color.

[ProfessorStoneFace]

Sweet music to my ears! If I can get that crud off them I'll just do the OD or Dark Earth and keep a portion blk and just mix the furniture color.
yeah if that's krylon the Duracoat degreaser melts it away :) soak it for a little then it wipes right off, pretty funny.

I have a couple of different shades of black in stock. matte black which matches the stock AR black of a RRA or DPMS. HK black which is semi gloss, pretty cool. ultra tactical which is supposed to be flatter than the normal AR color. I also have gloss black and remington black. I doubt you would want the gloss black on an AR but the remington black is kinda cool, has little silver specs in the finish. I also have Magpul FDE in stock, I don't think I have any OD green in stock though.

[Secpro]

yeah if that's krylon the Duracoat degreaser melts it away :) soak it for a little then it wipes right off, pretty funny.

I have a couple of different shades of black in stock. matte black which matches the stock AR black of a RRA or DPMS. HK black which is semi gloss, pretty cool. ultra tactical which is supposed to be flatter than the normal AR color. I also have gloss black and remington black. I doubt you would want the gloss black on an AR but the remington black is kinda cool, has little silver specs in the finish. I also have Magpul FDE in stock, I don't think I have any OD green in stock though.

Awesome! Well i guess we'll be talking about this here soon. I'm picking her up tomorrow will you be in Guntech? Then again aren't you guys swamped on Tuesdays?

[ProfessorStoneFace]

tuesdays are usually a little nutty but it comes in waves. honestly the best time is between 6 and 7 right before they lock the door. I'll be there tomorrow starting after lunchtime, get some work done on Cris's and Jaun's rifles :)

[Secpro]

tuesdays are usually a little nutty but it comes in waves. honestly the best time is between 6 and 7 right before they lock the door. I'll be there tomorrow starting after lunchtime, get some work done on Cris's and Jaun's rifles :)

That's normally when i show up anyway, so it's perfect. I try and swing by there tomorrow before closing and I'll bring the AR with me.

[Secpro]

Alright there misior Stone Face, I believe this is the look I would like to achieve.

Either of these would be good!

[Secpro]

The color schemes seem to be a little off, but that is pretty much the desired affect I seek. Something not glossy/shiny and for the most part will mesh well with the furniture that's being sold.


EDIT: I will also need a XD9 Service piece done as well.

[ProfessorStoneFace]

both look pretty cool, I guess it depends on the furniture pieces you have and what color they already are. either way just bring it in and we'll figure out something cool :) the Magpul FDE is a good color, not too glossy, good match to the matte AR black.

are you looking to do the XD9 in the same style/colors or is that going to be different?

[Secpro]

both look pretty cool, I guess it depends on the furniture pieces you have and what color they already are. either way just bring it in and we'll figure out something cool :) the Magpul FDE is a good color, not too glossy, good match to the matte AR black.

are you looking to do the XD9 in the same style/colors or is that going to be different?

Same color and style.

[ss1]

as far as people not painting the lower I don't see why that would be an issue. the only thing I can think of would be that you can't mail a firearm to someone who isn't an FFL dealer.

The ATF views refinishers as gunsmiths requiring proper licensing. Guntech's FFL includes gunsmithing services. A person with an airbrush, duracoat, and skills without the proper FFL license should not be working on the registered parts of firearms. Even then, it's probably a gray area.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/gunsmiths.html (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/gunsmiths.html)

[JaxChris]

If you have someone coat your firearms without an FFL you need to stay with your weapon while it is being refinished. This means you can't leave it with someone or mail it off to have work done unless they give you a minute by minute report along with a copy of their FFL at the very least.

[ProfessorStoneFace]

Same color and style.

sounds cool, nice matched pair. I'll be back in the shop either thursday or friday, maybe even both nights. whenever you stop by we can put a plan together and order paint if needed.



The ATF views refinishers as gunsmiths requiring proper licensing. Guntech's FFL includes gunsmithing services. A person with an airbrush, duracoat, and skills without the proper FFL license should not be working on the registered parts of firearms. Even then, it's probably a gray area.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/gunsmiths.html (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/gunsmiths.html)


If you have someone coat your firearms without an FFL you need to stay with your weapon while it is being refinished. This means you can't leave it with someone or mail it off to have work done unless they give you a minute by minute report along with a copy of their FFL at the very least.

that makes sense, I never worried about it since I'm all set up at GunTech. all of the firearms that come in for Duracoating get logged into their ATF log with everything else.

[Secpro]

sounds cool, nice matched pair. I'll be back in the shop either thursday or friday, maybe even both nights. whenever you stop by we can put a plan together and order paint if needed.


Cool, sorry about yesterday, but I needed some damn sleep. I didn't wake up until about 7:30 so I'll catch you either Thursday or Friday then.

[weaponeer]

Duracoat is easy to apply. do it yourself