View Full Version : Man Recovering After Being Shot During BK Robbery
RCSRT8
03-25-2009, 08:20 AM
More good news, one more scumbag down
http://cbs4.com/local/Burger.King.Shooting.2.967279.html
MIAMI (CBS4) ―
The restaurant is located on the west side of Biscayne Blvd., one of Miami's busiest streets.
A South Florida man is recovering after being shot while stopping a robbery at Miami Burger King.
It happened late Tuesday afternoon when an armed man wearing a ski mask stormed into the restaurant on Biscayne Boulevard and 54th Street and demanded money.
"A good Samaritan inside the Burger King had a concealed weapons permit. He confronted the robbery suspect at which time shots were fired," said Miami police spokesman Jeff Giordano. "There were a lot of people inside the Burger King, he may have saved lives. It was a brave act."
The would be robber was killed, the good Samaritan was taken to Jackson Memorial Hospital in serious condition.
Employees arriving for were shocked when they heard what had happened.
"I received a call from one my relatives and they said there was a shootout at the Burger King and ask me was I ok. So now I'm kind of nervous. I don't know what happened," said one employee.
Police have not released the names of the would be robber or the man who as injured.
Anyone with information is urged to contact Miami-Dade Crime Stoppers at 305-471-TIPS.
(© MMIX, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)
chrismia
03-25-2009, 08:22 AM
saw this last night. crazy!!!
RCSRT8
03-25-2009, 08:22 AM
More to it
http://cbs4.com/local/Burger.King.Shooting.2.966789.html
Potential Robber Dies In Burger King Shooting
MIAMI (CBS4) ―
Miami Police say a Good Samaritan confronted a would-be robber and killed him before he was able to rob a Burger King Restaurant on Biscayne Boulevard Tuesday afternoon.
Police and fire rescue responded to a double shooting call at the restaurant located at 54th Street and Biscayne Blvd., and when they got there they found a man injured, transporting him to Jackson Memorial Hospital. That man was the Good Samaritan who they say confronted the ski mask wearing suspect with a gun of his own. Gun shots were exchanged between the two as a result.
Panic set in among employees upon hearing the news of what happened.
"I received a call from one my relatives and they said there was a shootout at the Burger King and ask me was I ok. So now I'm kind of nervous. I don't know what happened," said one employee.
The suspect died on scene, but fire rescue transported the victim to Jackson Memorial Hospital where he was last listed in serious but stable condition.
"It was a lot of people inside that Burger King, he may have saved lives, so it was a brave act yes," said Jeff Giordano with Miami Police. "He confronted the robbery suspect, at which time shots were fired."
According to detectives, the Good Samaritan had a concealed weapons permit. The names of both men have not been released.
Anyone with information is urged to contact Miami-Dade Crime Stoppers at 305-471-TIPS.
(© MMIX, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)
Another one bites the dust. Another point for the good guys.
TroyM7A1
03-25-2009, 08:40 AM
Nice!!!!!!!!
Some interesting conversation on another website over this. Obviously we don't know the details, but would you, as CCW holders, draw your weapon and attempt to stop an armed robbery at a fast food establishement? I think I would certainly keep it at low ready, but I'm not sure if I would do anything unless the BG was showing clear signs that he/she was about to shoot someone or turning to me, family or friends. At that point you have to shoot to "stop" the threat. I'd rather not deal with it over a restaurant losing a couple hundred dollars. That's just me tho, as I view the CCW as allowing me to protect myself, family or friends and not play cop.
Some interesting conversation on another website over this. Obviously we don't know the details, but would you, as CCW holders, draw your weapon and attempt to stop an armed robbery at a fast food establishement? I think I would certainly keep it at low ready, but I'm not sure if I would do anything unless the BG was showing clear signs that he/she was about to shoot someone or turning to me, family or friends. At that point you have to shoot to "stop" the threat. I'd rather not deal with it over a restaurant losing a couple hundred dollars. That's just me tho, as I view the CCW as allowing me to protect myself, family or friends and not play cop.
Newbee here but I agree 100%. Having a CCW is not having a badge. I would only draw if my wife, family, close friends (with me at the time), or I were in danger. I am not about to play cop for Burger King. I respect what the guy did and I agree about one less scum bag to deal with but IMO I would not have drawn unless I was in danger.
Guess you don't always get it your way at BK.
spikes40
03-25-2009, 05:14 PM
Some interesting conversation on another website over this. Obviously we don't know the details, but would you, as CCW holders, draw your weapon and attempt to stop an armed robbery at a fast food establishement? I think I would certainly keep it at low ready, but I'm not sure if I would do anything unless the BG was showing clear signs that he/she was about to shoot someone or turning to me, family or friends. At that point you have to shoot to "stop" the threat. I'd rather not deal with it over a restaurant losing a couple hundred dollars. That's just me tho, as I view the CCW as allowing me to protect myself, family or friends and not play cop.
:+1:
JaxChris
03-25-2009, 05:49 PM
The "good samaritan" is going to end up on charges of drawing his weapon in public and inciting violence. He'll also be sued by the family of the perp.
He should not have drawn outside the establishment in that fashion - according to the law. Yes he likely saved a life and took a bullet for someone, but he's going to be in trouble now.
If he was inside the Burger King when it was getting robbed and the robber drew his weapon first and was waving it around, then it would've been justified to defend himself and innocent bystanders around him beyond reasonable doubt.
You guys should goto Jackson-Memorial and give thanks and show support - he's going to need it.
doug5336
03-25-2009, 06:52 PM
Some interesting conversation on another website over this. Obviously we don't know the details, but would you, as CCW holders, draw your weapon and attempt to stop an armed robbery at a fast food establishement? I think I would certainly keep it at low ready, but I'm not sure if I would do anything unless the BG was showing clear signs that he/she was about to shoot someone or turning to me, family or friends. At that point you have to shoot to "stop" the threat. I'd rather not deal with it over a restaurant losing a couple hundred dollars. That's just me tho, as I view the CCW as allowing me to protect myself, family or friends and not play cop.
I would have done the same thing as he did. Those shitbags who did the Dunkin Donuts robbery shot and killed a customer at random. I wouldn't wait to become a victim.
doug5336
03-25-2009, 06:54 PM
The "good samaritan" is going to end up on charges of drawing his weapon in public and inciting violence. He'll also be sued by the family of the perp.
He should not have drawn outside the establishment in that fashion - according to the law. Yes he likely saved a life and took a bullet for someone, but he's going to be in trouble now.
If he was inside the Burger King when it was getting robbed and the robber drew his weapon first and was waving it around, then it would've been justified to defend himself and innocent bystanders around him beyond reasonable doubt.
You guys should goto Jackson-Memorial and give thanks and show support - he's going to need it.
Just curious, are you a defense attorney or a use of force expert??
spikes40
03-25-2009, 06:58 PM
I have to disagree with jaxchris... i highly doubt any charges will be filed... force with force bill protects against the family sueing as well
JaxChris
03-25-2009, 08:16 PM
I'm not an expert or attorney. And the article I read said the shots were fired outside the establishment, not inside. So my reply doesn't even fit the specific article quoted in here. But like I said, if it was inside the establishment and the good guy was one of the potential victims and the perp had drawn first then he had all right to defend himself and others. If outside, and provoked the guy because he could see he was about to rob it then it caused the suspect to become violent.
I completely agree that scumbug's should all be shot dead, but like ever weapons class says there are very specific circumstances where you can draw because our rights are quite limited due to liberal policies and bored housewives that make petitions to kill time and piss people off.
RCSRT8
03-25-2009, 09:03 PM
Some people are officers and have a bit of knowledge on here as well.
JaxChris
03-26-2009, 01:36 AM
Well they definitely know better than me. Again, I didn't even read the article on the first time, just replied to what I read elsewhere. =/
The guy was definitely in the right. With a conceal permit you are allowed to prevent a forcible felony. Its definitely a hard situation to deal with at hand. From what I read, it seems he confronted the scumbag, I would have shot him and then asked questions later, by confronting him you just gave him the opportunity to shoot you as it did happen. . Now in this situation you also have to ask yourself do I want to endanger myself or am I with others, do I want to make the choice of endangering another persons life.
Secpro
03-26-2009, 07:06 AM
I would have done the same thing as he did. Those shitbags who did the Dunkin Donuts robbery shot and killed a customer at random. I wouldn't wait to become a victim.
:+1: Mind you I really don't want to cause the confrontation, but I'm not going to be the one to wait to be a victim. Especially if it's within my power to stop the situation at hand. The guy took a bullet in the ass but he'll live, if he didn't who knows how the situation would of turned out.
Duskydriver
03-28-2009, 10:35 AM
It would take less time for the dirtbag to turn and fire on you, than for you to draw your firearm. Better to be ready than dead.
I'm here in Waco, TX for now until I pick up my load for the Hizzouse! Have the aunties, and grandmas been on tv wailing about how their kid was such a good boy yet?
doug5336
03-28-2009, 03:36 PM
No, his ghetto family hasn't been on tv, hailing him as a martyr. But, he did have a juvenile arrest record longer than the Great Wall of China. (no surprise).
RCSRT8
03-29-2009, 08:01 PM
well it last this story had a fairy tale ending, scumbag dead
Secpro
03-30-2009, 07:16 AM
No, his ghetto family hasn't been on tv, hailing him as a martyr. But, he did have a juvenile arrest record longer than the Great Wall of China. (no surprise).
A bit surprising he hasn't been hailed a martyr yet! I could here it now, " All they do is running around killing the blackman. He was such a good kid, he didn't deserve this. :fu: Black, white, scum is scum!
The arrest record seems to be typical for scum nutts like that. He got what he was seeking in life I guess.
chrismia
03-30-2009, 06:50 PM
so, did this guy chase the rober outside of the BK?